Transcribers' Comments
These I have posted on behalf of Johnny Sykes, a descendant, who (I hope!) will post the rest, for "it's nothing to do with me" ;-)
I have done the section posted, but it seems me that - given the significance to history of AP - surely his will must be transcribed somewhere on the internet?
Have you searched recently?
Thank you for that effort.
And, Yes, I did ask my friend Google, and Guess what ? THIS Site is the one he came up with ! ;-)
I tried that too.
The entry for Admiral Arthur Phillip on wikipedia says there is a transcript of his will - and the link takes you back to this post here on Rootschat!
It looks as if they were going to look up the missing names and then fill them in afterwards - never happened.
I'm not terribly happy with 'Lancefield' - difficult to make out the letters between 'La' and 'efield'
Thank you, Goldie61. I guess at some time, maybe some geek OOPS ! I mean aficionado ! - will investigate those names and produce a family tree ! ;-)
If you go to Wikipedia and click on "View History", you will see that it was me who added the Link to here ;-)
So familysearch is showing a marriage of Mary Ann Dove 1811 to Thomas Lancefield at St Margaret's, Rochester Kent. I don't know why it isn't showing an exact date. Under 'English Marriages 1538 - 1973'.
* I suspect the scribe has missed out something a word or two here - possibly 'time after'?
Sounds as if he didn't think much of Elizabeth's husband - whoever he was! 
Again, familysearch has a marriage of ELizabeth Dove to a Thomas Harris 13th Feb 1804 at St Paul's, Deptford, Kent. Same set of marriages.
For those who do not know, all is revealed below. Admiral Philip (as Captain) was in command of the First Fleet of settlers to New South Wales (2 warships and 9 transports). He founded Sydney. He's buried at St Nicholas, Bathampton, near Bath, Somerset. Evan Nepean is mentioned in his Will.
http://bath-heritage.co.uk/phillip_tomb.html.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Nepean.
Line 200 - I would have thought the Latin term to be 'viz', but certainly looks like 'vix' here.
The 'seal' after his signing looks like an H inside it? Not his actual signature.
This is a copy (did it come from the PCC?). If you dig around in the information given about the wills there, there should be the original with the actual signatures and seal on.
The 'seal' after his signing looks like an H inside it? Not his actual signature.
We have discussed before on this board a similar circle surrounding the letters L.S., which appears on some PCC wills in about the same place. (Locus Sigilli = place of the seal.)
I suspect this H is for Hand and indicates he signed the original of the will in his own hand.
I'm pretty sure the end of the witness section is: ...Clerks to Mr: Mant
There are some Ms in the smaller image on page 5.
This has been an interesting thread and a great effort by all transcribers.
May I ask if you are a descendant of Arthur Phillip? If not, what are your plans for the transcription of the will?
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 07 February 19 05:09 GMT (UK) »
I'm pretty sure the end of the witness section is: ...Clerks to Mr: Mant
There are some Ms in the smaller image on page 5.
And it's just dawned on me one of the witnesses is Henry Mant (in the line above).
Yes.
You may ask.
I'm not.
... so I googled our Admiral, and discovered that the Museum of New South Wales has an "interest" in him.
So here's what I wrote on their Contact Us form :-
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The Last Will & Testament of Admiral Arthur Phillip
http://archival.sl.nsw.gov.au/Details/archive/110315657
is being transcribed
If you would give me a proper e-mail address, when it's complete I can send you a WORD document or .PDF.
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and I received a nice reply :-
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Please send the transcription to my email address [redacted] in WORD format. Im informed that we can then get it 'ingested' and linked to our catalogue record. Thank you for offering this valuable addition to our holdings.
Kind regards,
Colin
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... to which I replied:-
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I happened to come across a folder in remote recess of a backup !
So I did a Google search, and found that I had started to put it up on: 2 March 2012 !
I seem to recall I received the original scans from one Johnny Sykes, a descendant of the Admiral, now living in the UK.
That was three computers ago, and three changes of e-mail programs, so NOW, I am afraid I cannot track those originals, nor the original e-mails, nor his address. But he was “active” six weeks ago under the name “genealogistsykes “.
I had sent him my files, which he then put up on a WebSite for a while, then he (& I !) went to sleep….
When I re-discovered this, I put up the rest, tranche by tranche, and have now done them all.
I don’t seem to have those original files, but I cut them up into small chunks and numbered each line, and these chunks I posted.
I attach the transcription as a WORD document, also with comments at the end, and the snippets. If you would like the “full page” version, they are BIG .bmps, so I can send them one at a time if you want.
Do whatever you want with it all – I am only a “facilitator” !
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... and I am now bound to thank you all for that valuable transcription work, and also for your useful comments.
Thank you all, for a job well done !
That's wonderful Robin! A very worthwhile project, and for those who transcribed, a rewarding outcome I would think.
You would expect the will to have been transcribed before but it is surprising that it is not obviously available anywhere.
Excellent. 
PS. Maybe keep an eye on what the Museum does with the transcription - if they publish it Sarah and Trystan may be interested to include it in their "rootschat CV". 
That's all very interesting.
A new memorial to him in 2014 in Westminster Abbey, which Price Philip attended evidently!
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/.../ 4421aa6fd85bd7580407134858df6560
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-10/memorial-stone-to-admiral-arthur-philip-at-westminster-abbey/5587082
Wow! "Founder of modern Australia" no less!
Here's a picture of him from wikipedia.Always nice to put a face to a name.
Looks a bit worried don't you think? 
Oh...
Dear !
I have just discovered - what I should have remembered - this "rule" -
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Please note that a transcription by somebody else is their own work, which you cannot copy unless they have given their permission.
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So I suppose I should ask all you brilliant transcribers if you would be so kind as to accept that you don't mind that I have passed your work on to the NSW Museum - and to the wider world, I guess !
If you''re not happy with that, well ... mea culpa - I can only apologise.
I suggest perhaps that you send an e-mail through the form at
https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research-and-collections-ask-librarian/ask-librarian-request?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sl.nsw.gov.au%2Fcontact-us
Maybe something along these lines ? [I am not a lawyer !];-
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For the attention of Colin Warner, please.
[Name] has sent you the transcription of the Will of Arthur Phillips.
For your information, I was one of the transcribers, and have the Copyright of my work, which I am pleased to transfer to you, on the understanding that
a) the work be "in the Public Domain", and
b) my work is acknowledged collectively in a form such as this
"This transcription was performed pro bono by these members [names] who have kindly transferred their Copyright to us.
My nom de Plume is 
?
but my real name is ?
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I hope that covers it - feel free to do whatever you think best...
Can't be bothered with an email, Robin.
I hereby give permission for you to send my portions of the transcript to the NSW Museum and for the NSW Museum to do with them whatsoever they wish.
Bit busy the next few days.
Will get back to you.
I see most of the original transcribers have not been active on here for several years:
'Veeblemort" since Jan 2016
'Koromo' since May 2015
'mgf' since May 2015
They did the transcribing to start with for genealogistsykes back in 2012.Be hard to track them down now.
'Alexander' is the only one still active, and they haven't contributed since the beginning days - perhaps they didn't know the thread had been re-opened.
If it is a rule, and the transcribers have willingly transcribed and understand where their transcription is ending up and have given you permission to do whatever you want with it, why is it necessary to send emails to Colin Warner? 
I wouldn’t worry too much about it - I think you’ll be safe without formal written permission.
....and, if the NSW museum have a link to this thread they can read the transcriber’s comments for themselves.
I have been watching this thread with great interest.
Was a little thrown by the title of Admiral Arthur Phillip at first as he is always known in Australia as Governor Arthur Phillip - but of course he was an Admiral too.
No wonder NSW museum is interested! He was our first governor when Australia was 'settled' by the convicts and marines et al.
Wiggy
Haha Wiggy. I thought he was referred to as Captain Arthur Phillip.
Just realised that this thread was resurrected a few days ago from 2012 when it was first started. 
Curiously... one is only a Governor while one is still governing; once one stops that occupation, one ceases to be one.
Whereas the Queen's Commission (or King's) is for life (unless removed !).
So he WAS "Governor Phillips" for a while, but not after he left; but after he was appointed Admiral, he was always "Admiral Phillips" thereafter. Which he was when he wrote his Will. And when he died.
Not disputing that
- just that 'we' know him as Governor 'cos we 'know' him when he was here!
Very interesting anyway!
Wiggy
Colin Warner of the N.S.W. Museum wants to do the right thing, and give credit where it is due.
He has written:-
Can you send me a list of names of the members who made the transcription please?
Well, obviously, I can't !
I wonder if referring him to this thread would suffice?
Wiggy
I have done, several times ;-)
He was a post captain in 1788, when in command of the First Fleet to Australia. Post captain was the rank to reach, because if you lived long enough, you would become Admiral of The Fleet. Lord Nelson would have had to live to 1833 to become Admiral of The Fleet. One of Jane Austens brothers was Admiral of The Fleet by early 1860's (photograph on Google somewhere).
There seems to be some doubt where he's buried. It should be St Nicholas, Bathampton just outside Bath. He suffered from the diet in NSW and went to Bath to 'take the waters'. In the Will, Bathwick is mentioned, perhaps Bathampton was called that then.
Sometime between 2003 and 2006 I visited the churchyard. I can't swear to it, but I think I saw his gravestone. I have no memory of disappointment.
There's more on Wikipedia - on it I added a Link to here. And I posted a Link to Wikipedia previously; here it is again -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Phillip
Thank you, I've seen it. I don't recognise the portrait in uniform, rank etc.. Don't seem to be able to find an image as an admiral.
It's a pity that Arthur Phillips does not appear in that splemdid Magnum Opus,
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Naval_Biographical_Dictionary/Frontispiece
...but that is a biography of every Royal Navy Officer alive in 1849. Our Arthur died in 1814.
