Befuddled Ex- witches in a muddle?

The rot sets in as ‘Pagans for Christ’ Ex-witch missionaries split down the middle!

Leading Ex-witch site moderator breaks ranks and claims that the Ex-witch Mission to Pagans ministry is ‘corrupt’ and uses ‘false representation’!

Oh dear, all is not well in the fervent ranks of the anti-occultist missionaries it would seem. Don’t laugh folks but now even the holier-than- thou fundie factions (that have arrogantly told us witches and Pagans that we are at worst satanically – influenced or at least spiritually misguided) are resorting to absurd name-calling, legal threats and claims of ‘Heresy’ against EACH OTHER! Furthermore, even the plastic PF -type Christo/Pagan interfaith lobby is apparently now at last beginning to realise that it was wholly WRONG to support such missionary groups as Ex-witch.

For some time now PAN has in good faith warned all occultists about the spectre of Ex-witch, a US-based evangelical website crusade designed to win Pagans for Christ. PAN has provided NUMEROUS links which show that Ex-witch is ingrained with the very same ethos that led to SRAM cases world wide.

Well now folks we have to tell you that these worrying zealots are actually ripping each other to shreds behind the scenes.

Jean-Luc deVere runs ‘Ex-witch Australia’ and was a former moderator at the forums of the US-based 'Ex-Witch Ministries' run by the evangelist Kathi Sharpe. Unhappily for Sharpe her old chum has now apparently turned on her like a rabid pit bull and thinks that her band is a……..

“flawed and unScriptural group”

Jean-Luc deVere goes on to inform us that Sharpe has 'banned' him from her site and also threatened him with 'legal action'. The funniest thing is that these sugar and spice and oh so SELF-RIGHTEOUS fundies love to tell us simple heathen types HOW to run our lives and yet they cannot even 'agree' amongst themselves.

PAN seriously asks:

Can anyone EVER take these confused clowns seriously after this fiasco?

Here below is the transcript (with relevant site link) of Jean-Luc deVere’s attack on Sharpe’s Ex-witch outfit which will roundly gladden many a ‘true’ Pagan heart and yet at the same time perhaps distress those somewhat 'sensitive' yet bewildered ‘Xtian witch’ types, that PAN has reported on for so long and at such great length.

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March 15, 2006:

“G'Day again...

I am constantly being asked "Why do you NOT provide links to Kathi Sharpe's US based 'exWitch Ministries'?" and "Is 'exWitch Australia' a part of 'exWitch Ministries (USA)?"

The answer is long and involved but I hope that by providing the following link to a discussion that turned into a rather heated argument with Mark Bishop one of the Administrators at Kathi Sharpe's above mentioned Ministry will explain why I will have NOTHING to do with someone I consider to be a "false prophet" as defined by Scripture and a Ministry whose Admnistration is corrupt and uses false representation (by claiming to have people on staff who have, like me, left the Ministry in protest and disgust over the methods used and doctrine espoused by the 'powers-that-be' there - I understand that the use of such false representations attempting to give creedence to Ms Sharpe without these individuals permission is a felony crime (fraud) in the United States - and from recent contact I have had with them they a certainly less than pleased to see they are STILL listed as 'Staff' by Ms Sharpe) and that routinely uses threats of legal action against fellow Christians in direct contravention of the clear teachings of Scripture (1 Cor. 6:7) to intimidate and silence any criticism of the above mentioned practices... (see the entry for September 11, 2005 here for but one example of this)

Here is the LINK in question...

You will note that I make no bones about the areas - and there were more than a few - where I was at fault in my dealings with Kathi Sharpe's US based exWitch Ministries - where I was a Moderator for a time and as such got to see what REALLY goes on "behind the scenes" - but getting a similar declaration or admission from the 'powers-that-be' at exWitch Ministries (USA) is like trying to get blood from a stone...

I hope that after reading the WHOLE of the thread that I have linked to above people will understand why, while I openly and happily acknowledge that there are a great number of people who truly love and follow our Lord there - that I have - to say the least - strong reservations about having ANYTHING to do with such a flawed and unScriptural group...

Once again... Here is the LINK in question...

...and compare it with what the 'powers-that-be' at exWitch Ministries (USA) are willing to tell the members of their own Forum - LINK - Note particularly Kathi Sharpe's comments... Her 'sugar and spice' 'white wash' comments make no mention of the fact that I am still banned from her Forum... one that she claims that I am destined by God to one day be in leadership at that ministry (email on file)...

Just for the record... The last email I recieved from Ms Sharpe was another threat of legal action... which I have on record should she wish to challenge me on this... because - frankly - there comes a point where patience ends...

Jesus Himself threw the moneychangers out of the Temple and took on the Pharisees head to head and warned us that “false Christs and false prophets” will come and will attempt to deceive even God’s elect (Matthew 25:24-25; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18)...

I, for one, will have nothing to do with them...

More later...

Jean-Luc deVere “

http://exwitchaustralia.com/index001.html

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Committed Christian, Jean-Luc deVere  is undoubtedly NOT a happy bunny with Kathi Sharpe's Ex-witch ministry and in the thread link he mentions (twice) above he states:

"Actually my Pastor says he believes that exWitch Ministries has engaged in (and I quote) "cult-like manipulation" in their treatment of me and others ..." 

He also stated:

"I have CONTINUALLY sought the Biblical basis for much that went on at exWitch and met with either stoney silence or foul language from Kathi..."

Whoops - bet that this lot really pleased Mrs Sharpe although we have to sort of say - ‘TOLD YA SO’!

The contorted, sanctimonious and at times openly 'hostile' mindset which permeates throughout the world of these zealous missionary evangelists to Paganism is now clearly seen to be what it really is……..

A counterfeit and plainly deceptive attempt to disenfranchise all Pagans and occultists from their true native spiritual birth right!

A valid response from Kathi Sharpe or............... ???

 
In the light of fair play PAN even contacted Kathi Sharpe via email (Monday, 10 July 2006) for a response and opportunity to possibly 'correct' these claims that her Ex-witch outreach was corrupt, "unScriptural" or that she was a 'False prophet' etc as apparently alleged by her fellow missionary,  Jean-Luc deVere .

 
This is what we said to her:

"Kathi

I write regarding your recent parting with one of your previous site moderators, ‘Jean-Luc deVere’, who now seems to think you are acting in an “unScriptural” fashion. A PAN researcher has submitted this article (as below) and we would like your comments on it please to perhaps correct and/or illuminate any conclusions before considering publishing it."

Again, in the light of fair play PAN also included a draft of our proposed article to Kathi Sharp for her comments.

This below is her full and unedited response to PAN, dated: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:13:34 -0400:

"So essentially, you want me to do the same thing that he's doing? Think about it. :) Yes, he's prolific in spreading his diatribes all over the web. You can choose to believe him, if you'd like. The question is this: Have I ever lied to you? Or have I talked with you straight all along? What do you know of my character from our extensive discussions?

Kathi"

Kathi Sharpe's ‘only’ evident riposte is to say readers can please themselves if they want to  believe the allegations against her and her missionary Ex-witch group - if they want to!  

So who do YOU believe?

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Addendum:

 Is Jean-Luc deVere the ONLY missionary to express opposition to Kathi Sharp’s actions?  His article below  apparently sticks the boot into Sharpe’s theocratical ribs a little deeper by telling his readers that ‘other’ committed Christians are equally as repulsed by her behaviour as he is:

 

“Kathi Sharpe's methods and tactics are certainly NOT the way one would expect the leader of a reputable Christian Ministry to treat a fellow believer... especially one that they CLAIM God has destined to one day be in a leadership position at that self same Ministry now is it? Apparently others on staff at exWitch don't think so either... On 10/09/05 Julie James (known at exWitch Forums simply as Jules) asked the following of Kathi... "

"Kathi - stop obssessing and stop it with the unChristlike threats of legal action.  This is no way to treat someone who is hurting and damaged by things in his past; it's flat contrary to scripture, and you will be judged more heavily by virtue of your position.  Back away from your temper and go and pray.  You have been put in your position by God but you don't have lifetime tenure.  EW is God's ministry not yours and He will remove ANY of us who gets in the way, and that includes you if you don't act like the leader He has called you to be and care for the people He brings along.  Can He trust you with them? "

"No reply has been forthcoming...."

Jean-Luc deVere

 http://exwitchaustralia.com/index001a.html

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Well there you have it folks what more can we say?

Interfaith bunnies also walking  away?

PAN also has to add that the so-called ‘Pagan and Christian Moot’ forum has apparently 'withdrawn' its previous support for Kathi Sharpe’s missionary outfit.  See the following link for more on their version of events surrounding the Ex-witch fiasco.

 http://paganandchristianmoot.co.uk/pcvbforum/showthread.php?t=3828

Please also check out this page on this issue: 

http://www.patregan.freeuk.com/interfaithbunnies_exwitch.htm

Here’s a couple more, rather 'comical', links which seems to show how the current love affair between the missionary Ex-witch factions is developing.  

http://exwitchaustralia.blogspot.com/2006/07/txparamedic-and-more-flawed-leadership.html 

http://exwitchaustralia.blogspot.com/2006/03/why-i-do-not-support-kathi_114232277194952785.html

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In light of the above, does not something about 'rats' and 'sinking ships' come to mind?  Whatever next?

PAN and SAFF  have yet again been proved totally correct  in our  accurate predictions about the dangers posed for naive occultists in liaising with rampant missionaries who 'appear' to want to be the friends of Paganism.  We also reiterate, for the thousandth time, that the ludicrous and unworkable PF - style policy of Interfaithing with the forces of fundamentalism is flawed in every way.

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Disclaimer:

PAN realises that the vast majority of Christians are 'not' fundamentalist or evangelical in make up and we only criticise religious extremists who seek to disenfranchise other faiths whilst bolstering their own. PAN does not in any way condone violence against any persons or property and we must state that we have always worked towards a more tolerant and equal society.